"Why would you want infidels to tolerate you? Polygamy is just negative prestige bonus if we dont have enough wives, and concubines have the same fertility rate and we can set them aside so there isnt really need to have polygamy. Absolute cognatic succession is enforced. Nomads have their unique nomadic succession which does not split the realm like gavelkind. Hard to Convert. With Holy Fury, each pagan faith (except Aztecs) has an associated Warrior Lodge, a society focused on combat. For best run: The High Chieftess of Kiev in 769 reforming Slavic to be Enatic Clans is a stupidly fun run that I've been doing a lot of. In addition, all pagan faiths can be reformed. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Dogmatic: See above. When you choose to play as a pagan ruler in CK2, you accept that there might be some problems (succession, levies, conversions) along the way that come with the advantages. So I'm not a very big fan of Autonomous. No male in the council. Enatic and Agnatic clans allow us to get open succession law which is super strong as we know from muslims. Tier 1: No changes here from previous list. If you want to play tall/stable, Peaceful is often better. "Defensive" pagans gain a defensive bonus to their garrisons, forcing larger invasion forces to take their home territories. You can marry your brothers to other Christians for alliances AND marry your sister for yourself. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. Reformed pagans will gain a sudden bonus to their conversion rates. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. Equality allows the player to not only land females, but also to get even higher scores since female dynasts could have consorts, who as concubines provides prestige. Ancestor Veneration A for Power, A for Fun, Bloodthirsty Gods B- For Power, A for Fun, Stability/Children of Perun (Slavic)/Survivor of Ukko (Suomenusko). Eldership Succession law is available, Bloodthirsty Gods + Seabound + Unrelenting, Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies + Syncretism + Meritocracy. Access to Hermetic society (but Hermetics still suffer -10 temple opinion). Tribal vassals who follow in reformation will no longer have opinion penalties for higher levels of tribal organization, no longer faction to lower tribal organization, and will usually vote in favor of increasing tribal organization. Levy size & attack bonus from unreformed Tengri faith will be lost. I might make a post in the future on how I think all the religions and doctrines could be improved/fixed to make them viable for both Fun and Power, but Ive written enough for now. It gets pretty boring tbh. Also I would totally put Survivors of Ukko higher. Edit: I have recommended a combination that gives u an ultra stable realm but if you want to expand and get the SPQR achievement, then pick the Unyielding doctrine and Temporal leadership instead. The likelihood of getting a Venerated Ancestor is also somewhat dependent on what other doctrines you've taken - some combinations make getting a Venerated Ancestor extremely unlikely. Intermarry Eastern group, Zoroastrian group. Bn is also unlocked by Jade Dragon, and Horse Lords allows playing of pagan nomadic rulers. But later, feudal realms grow their income more quickly, while raiding becomes less feasible as targets consolidate. Check out other interesting CK2 guides and articles: CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Immortality Event ID and Guide|CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Strange Chest Item and Event Results|CK2 (Crusader Kings II): Retinues Guide. The love of battle among these pagans means that rulers incur no relation penalty with their vassals for having troops raised. The gavelkind succession law will remain even if you return to an unreformed pagan religion later. Defensive attrition is a powerful deterrent in the early game. The new reformation system allows players to build their religion for their preferred play-style and to combine incompatible characteristics. With bad technology. +40% garrison size at county of this religion. Historically, the pagan faiths were gradually supplanted by Christianity, Islam, Dharmic religions, and Eastern religions, but this does not necessarily happen in the game. They are only playable in the 769 bookmark unless Ruler Designer is used. Characters get a Rite of Passage when reaching adulthood. Pagans are able to hold religious feasts (except Tengri/African). Sky Burials. actually that "pagan" religion in game is just the generic pagan religion that all pagans had before the "old gods" expansion. The ability to raid makes some pagans uniquely wealthy in the early game. Patron Deities, Ancestor Worship. However, the longer the faith goes unreformed, the weaker it becomes. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of. Cairo is distant and usually controlled by major Muslim powers. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. Duke-tier religious head common for all realms. Charlemagne starts I tried so far seem to be financially starved, since it takes forever to get the basic naval tech and start raiding proper. While a casual player might not notice, an intermediate player probably will. Uuugghhh. As I recall stability+astrology also has a synergy where you get to boost your heir at birth. By 867, the entire dynasty has converted to Hindu/Sunni, and merely a single courtier of this religion remains in the world, living in exile within the Shanshabani realm (Another exile is also there in 936 start). )Best religion for gold income as liege : sunni Due to the additional tax from holdings in counties without Muslim religion. Romuva is the faith of the peoples on the east coast of the Baltic Sea, worshiping such deities as Dievas, Perkunas, and Laima. Duke-tier religious heads common for all realms. Youre all but guaranteed the successor you want, and unlike Open succession you dont have to worry about your AI heir doing stupid things when you land them. being able to roleplay as discount Vikings as any pagan religion can be fun, and using rivers is always an interesting mechanic. Full status of woman law is enforced. There are 6 Natures you can choose from, all with their advantages and disadvantages: Peaceful Bonuses +3 Demesne limit. I'm still mad how badly Shia got shafted over the development of the game. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. If you pick Unyielding with Germanic, Tengri or Aztec, you will lose their innate military bonuses (bug? You can use the Germanic faith's powerful CBs and shipbuilding buffs for expansion and raiding, then be succeeded by a Slavic ruler and reform. The Slavic faith is followed, as the name suggests, by the Slavic peoples of Europe. Feudal rulers bordering rivers will eventually increase their fort level to the point that Germanic pagans can no longer navigate those rivers. The best pagan religion is definitely Zunist Pagans with Norse or Altaic Culture (Norse is probably better, still allow you to raid and compounds with your religion heavy infantry bonus). If you have tribal government, it is recommended to choose either Agnatic Clans or Enatic Clans doctrine to avoid Gavelkind succession law. Will it have a religious leader, like the Pope? CK2 Pagan Reformation - Natures The first thing you will choose is one Nature. If tribal, remember that demesne counties which are still following the old faith will give less tax and levies. Male pagan rulers may take up to three concubines in addition to a wife (except for Hellenic pagans who cannot have multiple spouses or concubines unless the polygamy doctrine is chosen when reforming). Women can take up to 3 consorts. Thread starter persona23; Start date Feb 5, 2019; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our . No female temple holders. Messalianism because it's the single most outlandish religion in the game. Women can take up to 3 consorts. It's included in Children of Perun and Survivors of Ukko btw. Marry 4 women with good traits, then pick the best kid that pops out. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. For example, the average/casual player is probably not going be aggressively bloodline stacking. Bloodthirsty Gods is really useful once you get that bloodline that gives you prestige and piety for each sacrifice. Meritocracy is just delayed open succession after we get to Primogeniture law. Combined with not paying any penalty for raising their vassals' levies, this means offensive pagans can muster forces far beyond what their technological levels would suggest. Anyway, good list and I have to say I agree on most of the points! I would suggest against prepared invasions/warmongering as it leads to rather unstable vassals, and generally does not benefit you personally as the leige as you will far exceed the maximum realm size requirement. Holding the Blood Games in the Grand Amphitheater grants an additional 200 Prestige. Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. Out of all the Succession Doctrines, Meritocracy is probably the safest. Tax on subjects of different religious groups is allowed. Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. What, in your opinion, is the best photograph? Holding the Blood Games in the Grand Amphitheater grants an additional 200 Prestige. If we pick it as germanic, tengri or aztec we will lose any troop bonus that we couldve inherited from unreformed religion. Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. The reformer's courtiers at home, dynasty members, and vassals will always follow in the reformation if they are below playable tier. Ilmen is also surrounded primarily by weak Suomenusko and Romuva pagans and is shielded by an ocean from the Norse until the Viking Age event triggers, giving plenty of time to solidify power. Access to Hermetic society. Aztec religion has no special mechanics, having the usual set of Offensive Pagan mechanics. Moral Authority edit Main article: Moral authority While three of the faith's holy sites are in Scandinavia, the other two are in mainland Europe and often held by strong Christian rulers. you proselyte by sword, not by word. Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. The principal ability of defensive pagans (Romuva, Slavic, Suomenusko & African) is a tremendous boost in combat when fighting on home ground. Knowing that Civilized is the best "peaceful" doctrine, pair that with stability, temporal so you decide your own holy wars and get a permanent artifact and set it to proselytize so that every follower of your religious works to eliminate religious bordergore. (Hellenic religion lacks concubines), You can't declare holy wars if You have the peaceful doctrine. Feudal unreformed pagans typically use gavelkind succession. Thats all for now! Ironically, the low technology is a greater issue after the adoption of feudalism, as feudal realms require higher tech for the construction of buildings. Just know ahead of time that the owner of the title can't marry or be betrothed unless they have another title like count or something. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion. Norse: Cultural one, then either agnatic, stability or blood sacrifices, depending on playstyle. With it, You can just forget about any problems during succession. Levy size & attack bonus from unreformed Tengri faith will be lost. I have an Ironman 867 Guge game on the verge of reforming the religion. Rulers can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attributes. First off I didn't do any exploits. Reforming the Aztec faith is possible but extremely difficult. Eastern Orthodoxy, Miaphysite Christianity, Allows sacrifice of thralls captured in raids, Allows sacrifice of courtiers to read entrails, Once per decade interpretation of stars by religious head or court chaplain if none exists, Education improvement synergy and Meliorism improvement synergy. Suomenusko, religion of the Finno-Ugric people stretches from the Baltic Sea to Siberia. Depending on the spread of the faith before reformation, heresy may or may not become a major issue. However, the Sons of Abraham demon child event chain will create Zunist "witches", who can be married matrilineally or assigned as guardians to children with the Faith or Heritage focus. The only issue is there is a bug (Snow Crystal pretty much confirmed it's a bug). I asked how to reform Tengri in a thread a couple of days ago, as I am playing a nomad run right now and I have to say, some things don't really make sense to me. The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. You finally conquered all the holy sites and can reform your pagan religion in Crusader Kings II (CK2), but there are so many choices now that you just need to look up what everything means. Pagan religions retain some features when reformed, regardless of the features chosen during reformation. +1 piety per month while at peace. - Discussion. Only disadvantage is that AI rulers will never convert counties but you can do that yourself). Some other day I read that this isn't a bug and it's working as intendent IMO Enatic is much, much better than Agnatic, because Agnatic prevents you from matri marrying, which means any chance to get a non-crafted bloodline is over, and because there are immensely more targets for matriarchal deposition than there is for the opposite. AI looters prefer coastal counties. but i'm talking about game mechanics here, compared to Catholicism, Orthodoxy in-game has nothing unique really, hell, it didn't even have it's own Holy Order till recently. Patron Deities. Easily the best for power gaming, as you can directly target Great Holy Wars, and don't . Reformer picks two doctrines. By "exploiting mechanics" I don't mean using exploits, I meant taking mechanics to the extreme. Havent seen many posts about reforming the Bon religion. CK2 Cheats CK2 Province IDs CK2 Event IDs Other CK2 IDs and Codes CK2 Blog Type the name of a title, or a title ID, into the search box below to instantly search our database of title IDs. The lack of a formal religious tradition means that pagans have a harder time spreading their faith outside pagan lands. However, all the random events based on traits (which drop relations by 15 for those without and raise by 15 for those with the trait) are the same, along with the end bonus of 100 piety and prestige and +15 to vassal relations for one year. Eldership succession law is allowed. Because raiding counts as war, and they have county conquest casus belli that require no reason for war, however, few rulers need find themselves short on wars for long. Doesnt block us from raiding, hunting focus etc. When I ran a Muslim realm with a capital in Marrekech, and put 1 castle, 1 city, and 5 mosques there, I felt like I was the most powerful guy in the world. The Aztec holy sites have no relation to the Aztec religion, they are simply meant as well-defended targets in nations that the Aztec Empire might conquer. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion, How much of a direct gameplay advantage it gives (Power), Totem Guardians (African) - A for Power, A for Fun, Harmonious (Bon) A for Power, B for Fun, Civilized (Hellenic) A for Power, B- For Fun, Divine Marriage B- for Power, Meme for Fun, Sons of Ragnarok (Germanic) B+ for Power, B for Fun, Dawnbreakers (Zun) B+ for Power, Meme for Fun, Eternal Riders (Tengri) C- for Power, C for Fun, Invaders (Aztec) C+ for Power, B- for Fun, Defenders of Dievas (Romuva) Absolutely Useless. The religious head can decide upon death to. Have fun dealing with retaining those. Civilized already removes raised levies penalties to vassal opinion, and Hellenic can raid already. Similar story with Ancestor Veneration, but with more hassle of sucking up to the old dudes, the one disadvantage of Ancestor Veneration is that we must pick either Hierocratic or Autocephalous leadership (I think). Low MA will hurt you bad tho unless you're in middle east. Helps a lot when vs crusades or aztecs trying to meme on you. I haven't tried Perun+Daring, I wonder if it would give pirate trait. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Temporal rests power with you, and gives you bonuses, and you can . No female temple holders. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. There's a mod that fixes this. Nature: Unyielding sounds good on paper, but if you plan on having a large realm I'm not sure it's great because it takes a long time for counties to change to your religion. AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous. Having young concubines (below the age of 45) gives a monthly prestige gain, which is especially useful for tribal and nomadic pagans. Reforming a pagan faith establishes a formal religious hierarchy and scripture - adapting elements of the Abrahamic faiths in order to more effectively oppose them. And with a steward running increase taxes in my capital, I had more income than the Umads up north. I haven't reformed a lot of pagan faiths, but when I do reform a pagan faith, I tend to pick the same four options every time (Unyielding - Enatic Clans & Unique - Autonomous). You trade some of your offensive/defensive capability for stability, faster conversion, and Great Holy Wars to combat Crusades and Jihads. In fact, if they have high moral authority, and have damaged rival religions' moral authority with their conquests and stolen holy sites, or control unreformed pagan lands, they will soon be flooded with notices of conversions of territories that are held by their vassals, who will put forth serious effort to convert their lands to their new faith. GHWs are especially useful for Germanic Fylkirs, who can select the target and timing of the attack. Traits inherited from unreformed religion. choosing Polygamy for Hellenism, which has no access to concubinage or choosing the Children of Perun doctrine to make use of major Russian rivers to transport armies). Reformed offensive pagans no longer lose prestige when at peace. This discussion is purely about game mechanics. Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but County Conquest CB is available. Also, your heir will very often be past childbearing age by the time they take the throne which, combined with the fertility debuff for unlanded characters is recipe for trouble and at best costs you the genius traits in many generations. Holy sites: Perm, Ryazan, Novgorod (shared with Slavic), Saaremaa, and Kexholm. Seers (court chaplains) have a significant penalty to the chance to convert provinces on top of their likely-lower moral authority, and vassals cannot be demanded to convert. I would say go with the form of paganism you like best. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. Also without Proselytizing my own vassals never bothered to spread their own religion. There are no Hellenic rulers at any start date, but Hellenism can be revived in several ways: There is one special pagan faith that normally only appears in-game as the listed religion of long-dead historical figures. Harmonious expands our pool of talent but makes it harder to stack bloodlines due to disallowed cousin incest. Pagan Religion Reformation Advice. I rank Ancestor Veneration as tier 1 because of the eldership succesion it provides, sainthood is just nice bonus for it. 867 enatic bloodline,African religion for consorts, cosmopolitan for husbands, syncretic to remove penalties, divine marriage so you can seduce and cosort acquire bloodlines, autonomous for a floating Dynasty opinion, fertility, or another +10 religion modifier. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. Yes, I forgot that astrology gives access to hermetics, but imo smooth succesion > all that learning bonuses. I like equality. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Bn (Bon) is an indigenous religion of the Tibetan plateau, added in patch 2.8. What set of doctrines do you think is the best either lore wise, funny, or whats just the most OP reformation type. By PegaluxX, January 4, 2019 in Crusader Kings 2. These three are weird. Meritocracy seems like the best non unique doctrine to me. It got to the point where I was raiding not based on gold or number of holdings or artifacts or anything like that, but simply based on the size of the ruler's court; I figured it would give me more chances to capture folks for the sacrifices. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. Generic Paganism and Hellenism, obivously. (Especially after mass conversions.). They must switch to elective gavelkind if they wish to declare Subjugation or Tribal Invasion wars. Also offsets short reign. Rulers can choose to gain sympathy with another faith by decisions. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. For feudal pagans, reforming makes it possible to raise crown authority to any level. Followers 0. Also has access to the decadence mechanic which can also increase demesne income with tribal or iqta governments. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Pagans follow the old polytheistic traditions, spurning the Abrahamic and Indian religions' talk of a segregation between physical and spiritual realms in favor of polytheistic physical gods. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of Rajas of India or Jade Dragon is enabled). It has a synergy with incest doctrine making us high god of our religion. Doubles the pool for good commanders and councillors and as a bonus you can give consorts to your daughters. Reforming also provides access to the full set of feudal succession laws. Stability removes short reign penalty, which was not a problem for me ever. Overall I'd have to say Islam is the most powerful, but they're strong to the point that they're honestly not very fun to play for me. What options do you think is best for each, norse, slavic, tengri, etc? Full status of woman law is enforced. Great Holy War against a single disfigured child. That deserves recognition. Also Temporal gives u cool(gives tons of piety and prestige per month) lvl 4 artifact . For example, if you want to paint the map, pick Temporal and use GHW. If it doesnt then Children of Perun is tier 3 really, nothing cool in it, I think it was specifically designed to sail rivers around Russia. Diviner read signs before a war to try to improve troop morale. The sun is reflected beautifully on his bald head. I was new to HF just like everyone else and I had no idea what the end result would be. - can ask the leader of this realm to help convert the tribal leader's realm to the organized religion.Benefactor needs to be non-tribal, non-nomadic, non-theocracy (so you can't ask Pope for mass conversion . It's not something that occurs at the press of a button, but with a little effort, you can make even the most stalwart pagan take a knee to your faith. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. But if you want to expand, Unyielding is not that useful . 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